VAMK Academic Adventures – Episode 4: VAMK Master School

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[00:00:11.64 --> 00:00:17.68] hello everyone welcome to the last
[00:00:14.00 --> 00:00:19.64] episode of VAMK academic Adventures today
[00:00:17.68 --> 00:00:22.04] in this episode we'll be discovering
[00:00:19.64 --> 00:00:25.12] about the master programs available in
[00:00:22.04 --> 00:00:27.92] VAMK and also from the honest opinions of
[00:00:25.12 --> 00:00:29.84] our own lecturer and also our student
[00:00:27.92 --> 00:00:32.08] that is studying in master program so we
[00:00:29.84 --> 00:00:35.72] have two guests today and let's
[00:00:32.08 --> 00:00:37.76] introduce them so first hello Adebayo yes
[00:00:35.72 --> 00:00:39.84] hello how are you doing today I'm doing
[00:00:37.76 --> 00:00:42.72] great the sun is shining today so I'm
[00:00:39.84 --> 00:00:47.12] feeling nice so could you a little bit
[00:00:42.72 --> 00:00:51.40] introduce us uh who you are okay um
[00:00:47.12 --> 00:00:53.76] briefly um my name is Adebayo I've been
[00:00:51.40 --> 00:00:57.60] in VAMK since
[00:00:53.76 --> 00:01:00.16] 1997 and at the beginning of 2016 we had
[00:00:57.60 --> 00:01:02.28] this um master's program in Project
[00:01:00.16 --> 00:01:05.28] management which I'm currently
[00:01:02.28 --> 00:01:08.64] coordinating and I also teach in the
[00:01:05.28 --> 00:01:11.44] mechanical and Energy Engineering
[00:01:08.64 --> 00:01:15.00] Department okay nice seeing you here
[00:01:11.44 --> 00:01:17.96] again Adebayo thank you for coming okay hello
[00:01:15.00 --> 00:01:20.68] Pablo so could you introduce who you are
[00:01:17.96 --> 00:01:23.56] and what you're studying absolutely
[00:01:20.68 --> 00:01:25.64] thanks for the invitation here today um
[00:01:23.56 --> 00:01:29.00] so my name is Pablo so I'm originally
[00:01:25.64 --> 00:01:31.44] from Mexico I came to Finland about five
[00:01:29.00 --> 00:01:35.68] years ago
[00:01:31.44 --> 00:01:37.88] um uh and now I'm I'm a student at the
[00:01:35.68 --> 00:01:41.12] master's program in project management
[00:01:37.88 --> 00:01:43.12] on the engineering Branch at VAMK and uh
[00:01:41.12 --> 00:01:45.32] yeah it's nice to be here thank you okay
[00:01:43.12 --> 00:01:47.28] nice to be here I'm Kay and I'll be
[00:01:45.32 --> 00:01:49.56] hosting today's episode but also
[00:01:47.28 --> 00:01:51.52] discussing and uh a little bit about the
[00:01:49.56 --> 00:01:53.48] master's program here because I know
[00:01:51.52 --> 00:01:56.96] there are like different Master programs
[00:01:53.48 --> 00:01:59.64] here involved in both business side and
[00:01:56.96 --> 00:02:02.28] um technology engineering side so could
[00:01:59.64 --> 00:02:04.96] you tell like uh generally how these
[00:02:02.28 --> 00:02:07.88] programs are designed like yeah because
[00:02:04.96 --> 00:02:10.56] um the idea of the master's program is
[00:02:07.88 --> 00:02:13.32] kind of like targeted to students who
[00:02:10.56 --> 00:02:16.20] are basically working in Industries and
[00:02:13.32 --> 00:02:18.72] have probably maybe minimum two years of
[00:02:16.20 --> 00:02:21.56] working experience and then they would
[00:02:18.72 --> 00:02:24.80] like to probably gain some knowledge
[00:02:21.56 --> 00:02:26.80] that can enhance their practical skills
[00:02:24.80 --> 00:02:30.28] in the in the in the various Industries
[00:02:26.80 --> 00:02:32.88] so we have many currently many masters
[00:02:30.28 --> 00:02:35.48] programs and I I'm basically in the
[00:02:32.88 --> 00:02:37.88] project management side and we design
[00:02:35.48 --> 00:02:39.92] the curriculums usually by talking to
[00:02:37.88 --> 00:02:41.64] the industries and then seeing the
[00:02:39.92 --> 00:02:43.52] industry needs and then designing the
[00:02:41.64 --> 00:02:46.44] curriculum to fit the current needs of
[00:02:43.52 --> 00:02:48.92] the industries so which means that we
[00:02:46.44 --> 00:02:51.36] must be dynamic and flexible so from
[00:02:48.92 --> 00:02:53.08] year to year we try to see the current
[00:02:51.36 --> 00:02:55.64] trends in the industry talk to them and
[00:02:53.08 --> 00:02:57.84] then try to see whether our programs are
[00:02:55.64 --> 00:03:00.68] designed to match their current
[00:02:57.84 --> 00:03:02.52] industrial needs so it's it's like uh
[00:03:00.68 --> 00:03:05.36] it's always up to date with the current
[00:03:02.52 --> 00:03:07.48] industry and kind of matching and also
[00:03:05.36 --> 00:03:10.04] uh since the requirement is the students
[00:03:07.48 --> 00:03:11.88] should have prior work experience so not
[00:03:10.04 --> 00:03:13.76] straight after Bachelors or not
[00:03:11.88 --> 00:03:16.08] something like a little bit of work
[00:03:13.76 --> 00:03:18.40] experience already yeah because we want
[00:03:16.08 --> 00:03:24.16] them to be able to use the knowledge
[00:03:18.40 --> 00:03:25.96] they gain mhm in the program to improve
[00:03:24.16 --> 00:03:27.92] practices at their working place so if
[00:03:25.96 --> 00:03:29.84] you don't have a working place you just
[00:03:27.92 --> 00:03:33.76] have the knowledge and then I prefer
[00:03:29.84 --> 00:03:36.36] that the students have um some kind of
[00:03:33.76 --> 00:03:38.04] not problems challenges in their working
[00:03:36.36 --> 00:03:41.52] environment they bring it to the
[00:03:38.04 --> 00:03:43.52] lectures and then we look at it from a
[00:03:41.52 --> 00:03:44.80] theoretical perspective and they go back
[00:03:43.52 --> 00:03:47.36] and they improve the situation so
[00:03:44.80 --> 00:03:49.20] there's a kind of interaction between
[00:03:47.36 --> 00:03:52.24] theory and practice so that is the key
[00:03:49.20 --> 00:03:54.28] focus of the program so we really prefer
[00:03:52.24 --> 00:03:57.44] to have students who have some working
[00:03:54.28 --> 00:03:59.12] experience in their own different fields
[00:03:57.44 --> 00:04:01.04] yes definitely and I think that is
[00:03:59.12 --> 00:04:01.96] really important and it sounds kind of
[00:04:01.04 --> 00:04:04.48] like a
[00:04:01.96 --> 00:04:06.92] mentor uh and more like rather than a
[00:04:04.48 --> 00:04:09.16] teacher more like mentoring kind of
[00:04:06.92 --> 00:04:10.95] design is it correct yes I tell my
[00:04:09.16 --> 00:04:13.00] students that they shouldn't call me
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[00:04:13.00 --> 00:04:18.04] teacher confir yes I prefer that I
[00:04:16.80 --> 00:04:19.80] prefer this kind of coaching and
[00:04:18.04 --> 00:04:21.88] mentoring because some of them are
[00:04:19.80 --> 00:04:24.92] managers you have project managers
[00:04:21.88 --> 00:04:26.80] project controllers I can't teach them
[00:04:24.92 --> 00:04:28.68] that's true that's true yeah I think
[00:04:26.80 --> 00:04:30.88] maybe Pablo can also since we're already
[00:04:28.68 --> 00:04:33.52] on this topic about more mentoring and
[00:04:30.88 --> 00:04:35.28] more coaching like how do you feel as a
[00:04:33.52 --> 00:04:37.40] student studying here even though of
[00:04:35.28 --> 00:04:40.40] course you're already working outside at
[00:04:37.40 --> 00:04:44.36] the moment maybe yeah yeah so just to go
[00:04:40.40 --> 00:04:47.72] back to the point that Ade made before so
[00:04:44.36 --> 00:04:49.04] it is in fact a prerequisite to work in
[00:04:47.72 --> 00:04:52.72] this program to already have some
[00:04:49.04 --> 00:04:54.32] experience like working experience so so
[00:04:52.72 --> 00:04:57.12] referring to what you asked about the
[00:04:54.32 --> 00:04:59.76] the mentoring approach I think it's
[00:04:57.12 --> 00:05:01.48] since many or or all the participants
[00:04:59.76 --> 00:05:03.24] the program already have working
[00:05:01.48 --> 00:05:05.08] experience from previous years or they
[00:05:03.24 --> 00:05:07.08] are currently working in the industry or
[00:05:05.08 --> 00:05:11.92] I myself work at the University here
[00:05:07.08 --> 00:05:15.48] next door um so so it's it is very true
[00:05:11.92 --> 00:05:19.04] and I think a very accurate approach to
[00:05:15.48 --> 00:05:20.80] not like the the the teacher although
[00:05:19.04 --> 00:05:24.20] you prefer not to be called
[00:05:20.80 --> 00:05:27.92] teacher uh is is like guiding you on the
[00:05:24.20 --> 00:05:30.20] journey rather than like so it sort of
[00:05:27.92 --> 00:05:33.32] makes you think and question yourself
[00:05:30.20 --> 00:05:35.84] what you currently do at work and how to
[00:05:33.32 --> 00:05:38.76] like connect the theory you learn in the
[00:05:35.84 --> 00:05:41.28] classroom with the practice that you
[00:05:38.76 --> 00:05:43.60] currently do or have done previously at
[00:05:41.28 --> 00:05:45.68] work so it's in that way like more of
[00:05:43.60 --> 00:05:48.04] the mentoring yep way of doing things I
[00:05:45.68 --> 00:05:50.40] guess okay yeah that is really I think
[00:05:48.04 --> 00:05:52.04] interesting and also because of course
[00:05:50.40 --> 00:05:54.28] uh it's different in the University of
[00:05:52.04 --> 00:05:56.32] apply sciences and universities also
[00:05:54.28 --> 00:05:58.28] because for universities as much as I
[00:05:56.32 --> 00:05:59.96] know like they can go straight into
[00:05:58.28 --> 00:06:02.04] Masters without having any work work
[00:05:59.96 --> 00:06:04.52] experience so I think this is a little
[00:06:02.04 --> 00:06:06.36] bit more different yeah but of course
[00:06:04.52 --> 00:06:08.96] I'm also like currently a bachelor
[00:06:06.36 --> 00:06:12.08] student and after working a few years I
[00:06:08.96 --> 00:06:14.24] also plan to uh studies Masters myself
[00:06:12.08 --> 00:06:16.60] so this can be prior knowledge like how
[00:06:14.24 --> 00:06:18.84] I can be which master program I can
[00:06:16.60 --> 00:06:21.36] choose so for me maybe this is kind of
[00:06:18.84 --> 00:06:24.80] uh useful since I will attend only
[00:06:21.36 --> 00:06:27.12] Masters after uh having and gaining work
[00:06:24.80 --> 00:06:30.08] experience y that is if you want to come
[00:06:27.12 --> 00:06:31.44] to the apply Sciences to do your but if
[00:06:30.08 --> 00:06:33.84] you are going to your University
[00:06:31.44 --> 00:06:36.00] directly then you don't need to work as
[00:06:33.84 --> 00:06:39.44] Pablo mentioned earlier definitely yeah
[00:06:36.00 --> 00:06:41.32] so yeah so I I guess like back onto the
[00:06:39.44 --> 00:06:44.00] learning experience like because you
[00:06:41.32 --> 00:06:46.44] have uh studied the program uh yourself
[00:06:44.00 --> 00:06:48.80] also so how in maybe you can give us an
[00:06:46.44 --> 00:06:51.00] example of how it has been helping you
[00:06:48.80 --> 00:06:54.64] so far in your work also like trying to
[00:06:51.00 --> 00:06:58.52] connect these theories and also to uh
[00:06:54.64 --> 00:07:01.96] your real world working experience Okay
[00:06:58.52 --> 00:07:03.76] so so I have been working in projects
[00:07:01.96 --> 00:07:07.20] like fully in projects for about 3 years
[00:07:03.76 --> 00:07:10.32] now and although I have learned like the
[00:07:07.20 --> 00:07:12.80] the theoretical part at the University
[00:07:10.32 --> 00:07:14.52] here in Finland before also back home in
[00:07:12.80 --> 00:07:16.60] Mexico I studied industrial engineering
[00:07:14.52 --> 00:07:18.72] as well so I I knew some of the theories
[00:07:16.60 --> 00:07:20.24] and like the meth methodologies and
[00:07:18.72 --> 00:07:21.20] tools and things to like manage and
[00:07:20.24 --> 00:07:26.84] handle
[00:07:21.20 --> 00:07:29.04] projects however uh now doing the work
[00:07:26.84 --> 00:07:31.44] and the studies at the same time has
[00:07:29.04 --> 00:07:33.92] allowed me me to to make the connections
[00:07:31.44 --> 00:07:35.36] like in real time and to to bring
[00:07:33.92 --> 00:07:38.44] perhaps some of the knowledge that I've
[00:07:35.36 --> 00:07:40.80] gained from the past and try to to apply
[00:07:38.44 --> 00:07:43.44] or to think okay I'm doing certain
[00:07:40.80 --> 00:07:45.88] things ABC at work and I know how it's
[00:07:43.44 --> 00:07:47.76] done but I might not know what it is in
[00:07:45.88 --> 00:07:50.72] theory so it's it's good to to see in
[00:07:47.76 --> 00:07:54.64] the in the uh inside the classroom
[00:07:50.72 --> 00:07:56.20] Guided by the the mentor um like okay
[00:07:54.64 --> 00:07:58.80] this methodology and then then you sort
[00:07:56.20 --> 00:08:00.64] of click okay I've I've used this thing
[00:07:58.80 --> 00:08:02.92] without knowing I was using that thing
[00:08:00.64 --> 00:08:06.32] you know so so it's it's it's a really
[00:08:02.92 --> 00:08:08.12] nice way of of handling your study
[00:08:06.32 --> 00:08:10.24] Journey being in the classroom with
[00:08:08.12 --> 00:08:11.96] other people who are currently working
[00:08:10.24 --> 00:08:13.60] in the industry local industry or
[00:08:11.96 --> 00:08:15.20] National Industry and also having
[00:08:13.60 --> 00:08:18.24] experience from other countries that
[00:08:15.20 --> 00:08:20.56] brings a wide diversity of of like
[00:08:18.24 --> 00:08:22.88] points of view to the classroom which is
[00:08:20.56 --> 00:08:25.12] also like it enriches the the the whole
[00:08:22.88 --> 00:08:27.88] experience sounds like really more much
[00:08:25.12 --> 00:08:30.28] more adding value to the work experience
[00:08:27.88 --> 00:08:31.80] and your study experience also already
[00:08:30.28 --> 00:08:36.76] yeah do you have any points do you want
[00:08:31.80 --> 00:08:38.52] to add fine said it right yes yes yes I
[00:08:36.76 --> 00:08:40.72] think uh that is really good thing for
[00:08:38.52 --> 00:08:42.40] me to know as well and of course for all
[00:08:40.72 --> 00:08:45.24] the potential students who wants to
[00:08:42.40 --> 00:08:47.28] study Masters uh right here at Farm the
[00:08:45.24 --> 00:08:49.80] students are also as you also working
[00:08:47.28 --> 00:08:51.64] and studying at the same time how do you
[00:08:49.80 --> 00:08:54.28] think that you can balance it like is it
[00:08:51.64 --> 00:08:55.92] too hard to balance since it's going you
[00:08:54.28 --> 00:08:58.52] know parallel
[00:08:55.92 --> 00:09:03.00] together well I I I must say that
[00:08:58.52 --> 00:09:06.36] luckily it has hasn't been um too
[00:09:03.00 --> 00:09:08.16] demanding and therefore it allows you to
[00:09:06.36 --> 00:09:11.56] handle your working life and personal
[00:09:08.16 --> 00:09:13.72] life as well uh alongside the studies
[00:09:11.56 --> 00:09:15.80] and since the courses are the lectures
[00:09:13.72 --> 00:09:18.08] are held rather on on the weekends on
[00:09:15.80 --> 00:09:20.28] Saturdays in on average I would say like
[00:09:18.08 --> 00:09:22.72] every other although there's like two in
[00:09:20.28 --> 00:09:24.88] a row and then like two two weeks Gap so
[00:09:22.72 --> 00:09:27.92] on average maybe every other week
[00:09:24.88 --> 00:09:29.56] so it it's I think it's rather easy to
[00:09:27.92 --> 00:09:31.44] keep the balance with your working and
[00:09:29.56 --> 00:09:34.36] personal life and studies at this stage
[00:09:31.44 --> 00:09:37.20] of your life where well doing like many
[00:09:34.36 --> 00:09:38.88] plates on your hands right yeah so so I
[00:09:37.20 --> 00:09:40.08] mean I don't have a family myself maybe
[00:09:38.88 --> 00:09:43.16] it's a different story for those who
[00:09:40.08 --> 00:09:44.68] have kids but yeah from my experience I
[00:09:43.16 --> 00:09:47.00] think it's you can manage to keep the
[00:09:44.68 --> 00:09:49.84] balance so so yeah I would encourage
[00:09:47.00 --> 00:09:51.56] people to to to try it that is also good
[00:09:49.84 --> 00:09:54.40] to know because some people might worry
[00:09:51.56 --> 00:09:55.72] like if they have to stop working uh
[00:09:54.40 --> 00:09:58.00] like you know if they want to study
[00:09:55.72 --> 00:10:00.00] master so now that it's like you can
[00:09:58.00 --> 00:10:03.20] balance it you can try to have a balance
[00:10:00.00 --> 00:10:04.84] not just between work and uh studies but
[00:10:03.20 --> 00:10:07.64] also with your personal life I think
[00:10:04.84 --> 00:10:09.76] that is a really good addon um
[00:10:07.64 --> 00:10:13.76] educational experience for those who
[00:10:09.76 --> 00:10:15.76] want to study Masters as well but from a
[00:10:13.76 --> 00:10:16.68] uh not a teacher from a mentor's point
[00:10:15.76 --> 00:10:18.88] of
[00:10:16.68 --> 00:10:20.60] view as you would not like to be called
[00:10:18.88 --> 00:10:23.12] a teacher like from a mentor and from
[00:10:20.60 --> 00:10:25.52] more of a Coach View how do you think
[00:10:23.12 --> 00:10:27.56] it's like working with these um guiding
[00:10:25.52 --> 00:10:29.28] these students with from different parts
[00:10:27.56 --> 00:10:32.40] of the world coming to studies master
[00:10:29.28 --> 00:10:35.96] ERS uh how is how is the classroom
[00:10:32.40 --> 00:10:38.00] experience for you as well of course um
[00:10:35.96 --> 00:10:40.08] I also came to Finland to to study as a
[00:10:38.00 --> 00:10:43.36] student I have gone through most of the
[00:10:40.08 --> 00:10:45.00] journey so I kind of understand them uh
[00:10:43.36 --> 00:10:48.32] I can even empathize with their
[00:10:45.00 --> 00:10:49.80] situation uh so I try to encourage them
[00:10:48.32 --> 00:10:52.36] through this difficult time because
[00:10:49.80 --> 00:10:54.96] coming to a new culture becomes very
[00:10:52.36 --> 00:10:57.44] difficult but in the class room like
[00:10:54.96 --> 00:10:58.84] Pablo mentioned the different um
[00:10:57.44 --> 00:11:01.28] experiences from the students from
[00:10:58.84 --> 00:11:04.92] different of the world it kind of
[00:11:01.28 --> 00:11:07.84] enriches the class discussion because um
[00:11:04.92 --> 00:11:10.96] usually I try to
[00:11:07.84 --> 00:11:13.52] connect the lectures to practical life
[00:11:10.96 --> 00:11:15.60] so usually the assignments I give them I
[00:11:13.52 --> 00:11:17.24] try to make sure they connect it to
[00:11:15.60 --> 00:11:18.76] their practical life or to their
[00:11:17.24 --> 00:11:20.96] practical experiences so when you have
[00:11:18.76 --> 00:11:23.36] these different experiences from
[00:11:20.96 --> 00:11:24.88] different parts of the globe I think the
[00:11:23.36 --> 00:11:26.20] classroom become very enrich and for
[00:11:24.88 --> 00:11:28.40] from a teacher's perspective or a
[00:11:26.20 --> 00:11:30.44] mentor's perspective I think it also
[00:11:28.40 --> 00:11:32.56] helps me to
[00:11:30.44 --> 00:11:34.92] understand and how to manage this
[00:11:32.56 --> 00:11:36.88] diverse group of students who are
[00:11:34.92 --> 00:11:38.44] interested to learn from me so that is
[00:11:36.88 --> 00:11:40.92] something that I always keep in mind
[00:11:38.44 --> 00:11:43.60] that's really wonderful that you can uh
[00:11:40.92 --> 00:11:46.08] provide as a teacher as a guide uh as a
[00:11:43.60 --> 00:11:47.68] coach uh to the students here and of
[00:11:46.08 --> 00:11:50.04] course as you've been a student as well
[00:11:47.68 --> 00:11:52.04] so you know what they have so there's
[00:11:50.04 --> 00:11:54.84] more empathy from the lecturers
[00:11:52.04 --> 00:11:57.08] themselves as well yeah uh and inside
[00:11:54.84 --> 00:11:59.28] classrooms uh lectures and apart from
[00:11:57.08 --> 00:12:01.68] that are there like any research
[00:11:59.28 --> 00:12:04.08] projects that the teachers themselves go
[00:12:01.68 --> 00:12:06.48] or like f itself goes that also the
[00:12:04.08 --> 00:12:11.36] students can join Yes actually we
[00:12:06.48 --> 00:12:14.16] discussed that last um year so this year
[00:12:11.36 --> 00:12:15.96] I'm trying hard to see if I can um
[00:12:14.16 --> 00:12:19.16] integrate some of the students in their
[00:12:15.96 --> 00:12:21.60] research projects I do for example um
[00:12:19.16 --> 00:12:25.48] I'm currently working on this project in
[00:12:21.60 --> 00:12:27.36] VAMK called flexible Energy Systems
[00:12:25.48 --> 00:12:29.20] integration and optimization and we're
[00:12:27.36 --> 00:12:32.76] also currently doing projects in carbon
[00:12:29.20 --> 00:12:34.44] option storage so with regard to Energy
[00:12:32.76 --> 00:12:37.80] Systems I've tried to encourage students
[00:12:34.44 --> 00:12:41.08] to do projects in like digitalization of
[00:12:37.80 --> 00:12:43.44] project management or digitalization of
[00:12:41.08 --> 00:12:45.04] renewable energy systems and even some
[00:12:43.44 --> 00:12:46.56] are actually working on artificial
[00:12:45.04 --> 00:12:49.28] intelligence the role they play in
[00:12:46.56 --> 00:12:51.28] project management so I think in the
[00:12:49.28 --> 00:12:53.24] next class I'm going to have with them
[00:12:51.28 --> 00:12:55.52] in the research method class then I'm
[00:12:53.24 --> 00:12:57.64] now prepare to give them a lot of
[00:12:55.52 --> 00:12:59.36] potential topics that might be connected
[00:12:57.64 --> 00:13:01.76] to the projects I'm doing because we
[00:12:59.36 --> 00:13:04.56] discussed that last year that we should
[00:13:01.76 --> 00:13:05.80] really encourage or connect the bank
[00:13:04.56 --> 00:13:07.32] Master students to the different
[00:13:05.80 --> 00:13:09.92] projects that we are doing currently in
[00:13:07.32 --> 00:13:12.52] VAMK so the students themselves can get
[00:13:09.92 --> 00:13:14.56] opportunities more in the future to be
[00:13:12.52 --> 00:13:16.36] part part of the research projects as
[00:13:14.56 --> 00:13:18.84] well yes even though they are not paid
[00:13:16.36 --> 00:13:20.16] but it's more like a knowledge I think
[00:13:18.84 --> 00:13:21.88] the payment will come later in their
[00:13:20.16 --> 00:13:24.16] future career future career yeah
[00:13:21.88 --> 00:13:26.36] definitely I think the experience uh to
[00:13:24.16 --> 00:13:29.12] be able to be part of this will help a
[00:13:26.36 --> 00:13:32.28] lot for also in maybe even for their
[00:13:29.12 --> 00:13:33.96] current work experiences as well so yeah
[00:13:32.28 --> 00:13:36.40] uh what about you Pablo do you have you
[00:13:33.96 --> 00:13:38.96] ever like participated in any research
[00:13:36.40 --> 00:13:40.88] projects in VAMK or like have you done
[00:13:38.96 --> 00:13:43.72] some projects that is related to your
[00:13:40.88 --> 00:13:46.96] work in your school as well uh during my
[00:13:43.72 --> 00:13:48.28] time studying at VAMKuh we started in
[00:13:46.96 --> 00:13:50.80] September
[00:13:48.28 --> 00:13:53.96] 2023 and I haven't been part of any
[00:13:50.80 --> 00:13:55.32] research project in VAMK uh however of
[00:13:53.96 --> 00:13:58.76] course in order to graduate you need to
[00:13:55.32 --> 00:14:02.12] write a thesis yes and my plan so far is
[00:13:58.76 --> 00:14:04.96] to use the project I'm working on in
[00:14:02.12 --> 00:14:07.88] real life like my my job but I do my
[00:14:04.96 --> 00:14:09.40] project uh like to to find a case about
[00:14:07.88 --> 00:14:13.04] certain topic that that I might be
[00:14:09.40 --> 00:14:16.72] interested in and study it like further
[00:14:13.04 --> 00:14:20.00] in in detail and use that as my case for
[00:14:16.72 --> 00:14:22.32] for the thesis so so I haven't been yet
[00:14:20.00 --> 00:14:25.00] at least working in any project that is
[00:14:22.32 --> 00:14:27.24] been conducted VAMK but um through your
[00:14:25.00 --> 00:14:28.72] thesis and now it's good to to hear that
[00:14:27.24 --> 00:14:30.96] you will be presenting some potential
[00:14:28.72 --> 00:14:33.40] topics on how to bring students on board
[00:14:30.96 --> 00:14:35.76] um so yeah it there's there's
[00:14:33.40 --> 00:14:38.24] possibilities to conduct research of
[00:14:35.76 --> 00:14:39.88] course but it would be nice for for
[00:14:38.24 --> 00:14:42.24] those especially that maybe are new in
[00:14:39.88 --> 00:14:45.72] Finland and don't have a work here yet
[00:14:42.24 --> 00:14:48.32] uh that they they are given the the the
[00:14:45.72 --> 00:14:50.12] possibilities via the same university
[00:14:48.32 --> 00:14:53.24] that where we're studying so and of
[00:14:50.12 --> 00:14:54.76] course uh like you know if since you're
[00:14:53.24 --> 00:14:56.84] already working you can also already
[00:14:54.76 --> 00:14:58.64] choose a topic that will be related so
[00:14:56.84 --> 00:15:00.44] the Masters you're doing will not be
[00:14:58.64 --> 00:15:02.92] separated the thesis you will do not
[00:15:00.44 --> 00:15:04.76] will be separate from uh the work that
[00:15:02.92 --> 00:15:07.36] you're doing outside also so I think
[00:15:04.76 --> 00:15:09.96] that is like a plus benefit for your uh
[00:15:07.36 --> 00:15:12.40] real life uh working experience as well
[00:15:09.96 --> 00:15:15.16] oh yeah absolutely and it relates like
[00:15:12.40 --> 00:15:18.84] very heavily with what I said before
[00:15:15.16 --> 00:15:21.72] that I I do my work in C certain way in
[00:15:18.84 --> 00:15:23.72] real life but then what we've learned in
[00:15:21.72 --> 00:15:25.12] the classroom it's like okay so this is
[00:15:23.72 --> 00:15:27.60] actually
[00:15:25.12 --> 00:15:29.72] called method or it's related to this
[00:15:27.60 --> 00:15:32.04] Theory so then maybe like app
[00:15:29.72 --> 00:15:34.96] the actual work the practice with the
[00:15:32.04 --> 00:15:37.60] theory and so on so so so I consider
[00:15:34.96 --> 00:15:40.00] myself lucky having a job that I that I
[00:15:37.60 --> 00:15:41.68] can choose ask for my thesis it's nice
[00:15:40.00 --> 00:15:43.04] in that way that you can apply your own
[00:15:41.68 --> 00:15:45.28] topics from your life that you're
[00:15:43.04 --> 00:15:46.92] interested in and like make the
[00:15:45.28 --> 00:15:48.64] connections with the with Theory and of
[00:15:46.92 --> 00:15:50.88] course the proper research questions um
[00:15:48.64 --> 00:15:52.96] and of course now you're also uh you
[00:15:50.88 --> 00:15:56.68] started your studies do you have any
[00:15:52.96 --> 00:15:59.60] challenges and how did you overcome them
[00:15:56.68 --> 00:16:01.60] um well so far
[00:15:59.60 --> 00:16:05.68] I mean the usual challenges with the
[00:16:01.60 --> 00:16:08.36] deadlines regular study um studying
[00:16:05.68 --> 00:16:10.64] issues I think usually when you're a
[00:16:08.36 --> 00:16:13.80] student regardless of the age you tend
[00:16:10.64 --> 00:16:16.04] to leave things for the last moment so
[00:16:13.80 --> 00:16:17.40] it's hard to to to keep up perhaps with
[00:16:16.04 --> 00:16:20.72] the with the deadlines but then that's
[00:16:17.40 --> 00:16:23.40] just it's a mindset thing like if if you
[00:16:20.72 --> 00:16:25.20] have the deadlines clear in your head uh
[00:16:23.40 --> 00:16:28.04] so far I haven't missed the deadline
[00:16:25.20 --> 00:16:30.00] okay that's great but one time I forgot
[00:16:28.04 --> 00:16:31.60] that something was so I had been working
[00:16:30.00 --> 00:16:33.48] on it but I just didn't finish like the
[00:16:31.60 --> 00:16:35.28] conclusions or something so I was just
[00:16:33.48 --> 00:16:39.00] hurrying up the last night before
[00:16:35.28 --> 00:16:40.96] submission um so luckily I haven't had
[00:16:39.00 --> 00:16:43.00] any major challenges to be honest uh
[00:16:40.96 --> 00:16:44.64] there is some commuting or there's been
[00:16:43.00 --> 00:16:46.20] some commuting to say because I don't
[00:16:44.64 --> 00:16:49.68] know if this this has been mentioned
[00:16:46.20 --> 00:16:52.48] before uh it's like a joint program with
[00:16:49.68 --> 00:16:54.40] s uh for instance so so the commuting
[00:16:52.48 --> 00:16:56.40] back and fourth it's it's not a
[00:16:54.40 --> 00:16:58.00] challenge but you got to wake up earlier
[00:16:56.40 --> 00:17:00.72] and a certain Saturday that you need to
[00:16:58.00 --> 00:17:03.40] go and so on but nothing really major
[00:17:00.72 --> 00:17:05.48] that like lifechanging challenge no okay
[00:17:03.40 --> 00:17:07.76] that's great that's great but yeah and
[00:17:05.48 --> 00:17:09.32] also I do you see any of course you've
[00:17:07.76 --> 00:17:12.64] had to handle with so much students you
[00:17:09.32 --> 00:17:14.56] hear any challenges that students had to
[00:17:12.64 --> 00:17:17.20] um go through and did you have to help
[00:17:14.56 --> 00:17:20.00] them come come through these yes I think
[00:17:17.20 --> 00:17:21.64] the key challenges um the students have
[00:17:20.00 --> 00:17:24.88] especially the foreign students who
[00:17:21.64 --> 00:17:28.00] coming from Asia Africa into the
[00:17:24.88 --> 00:17:31.24] program we have different um learning
[00:17:28.00 --> 00:17:33.12] cultures stud cultures so sometimes they
[00:17:31.24 --> 00:17:34.88] might not even understand what the
[00:17:33.12 --> 00:17:37.68] teacher is saying probably what the
[00:17:34.88 --> 00:17:39.80] Finish teacher said or so I think those
[00:17:37.68 --> 00:17:42.44] are the places that I try to meet them
[00:17:39.80 --> 00:17:43.92] and try to tell them to relax it's not
[00:17:42.44 --> 00:17:44.84] the end of the world yeah it's a
[00:17:43.92 --> 00:17:47.00] learning
[00:17:44.84 --> 00:17:50.08] curve the learning C doesn't kill
[00:17:47.00 --> 00:17:51.12] anybody so it's just to um be able to
[00:17:50.08 --> 00:17:53.76] understand I think that's the key
[00:17:51.12 --> 00:17:55.44] challenge this cultural differences so
[00:17:53.76 --> 00:17:57.84] actually we have the international year
[00:17:55.44 --> 00:17:59.40] this year bank and we are trying to see
[00:17:57.84 --> 00:18:03.16] if we can also
[00:17:59.40 --> 00:18:06.84] encourage U more teachers to actually I
[00:18:03.16 --> 00:18:08.60] wouldn't say develop but um try to be
[00:18:06.84 --> 00:18:10.76] aware of their culture intelligence so
[00:18:08.60 --> 00:18:12.00] that they can understand students from
[00:18:10.76 --> 00:18:15.04] different background because sometimes
[00:18:12.00 --> 00:18:17.52] you get a message and you wonder what
[00:18:15.04 --> 00:18:19.08] you mean but it's just his culture so so
[00:18:17.52 --> 00:18:22.48] I think those are the key challenges and
[00:18:19.08 --> 00:18:25.36] also one will be to be able to find um
[00:18:22.48 --> 00:18:27.92] companies in Finland where the foreign
[00:18:25.36 --> 00:18:30.68] students can have some training or
[00:18:27.92 --> 00:18:33.20] practical training to help them to
[00:18:30.68 --> 00:18:35.64] really connect it because sometimes it's
[00:18:33.20 --> 00:18:37.28] not so easy because if they don't have
[00:18:35.64 --> 00:18:39.36] companies to do their thesis then
[00:18:37.28 --> 00:18:42.16] becomes a big challenge for me as a
[00:18:39.36 --> 00:18:43.76] teacher to find out what kind of the
[00:18:42.16 --> 00:18:45.04] they should do what are the right
[00:18:43.76 --> 00:18:47.36] methodology they should use in their
[00:18:45.04 --> 00:18:50.28] Master de so that's the key challenge
[00:18:47.36 --> 00:18:52.36] that I have as a as a mentor for them
[00:18:50.28 --> 00:18:54.92] yeah I think cultural is fair cultural
[00:18:52.36 --> 00:18:56.92] differences are a very big uh thing and
[00:18:54.92 --> 00:18:58.52] you can have uh misunderstandings
[00:18:56.92 --> 00:18:59.80] between just because of the culture
[00:18:58.52 --> 00:19:02.00] differ
[00:18:59.80 --> 00:19:04.16] both the students uh the international
[00:19:02.00 --> 00:19:06.96] students who come to study abroad must
[00:19:04.16 --> 00:19:09.72] also prepare to have a more like open
[00:19:06.96 --> 00:19:11.72] mindset uh when studying abroad yeah
[00:19:09.72 --> 00:19:13.96] because In some cultures they expect
[00:19:11.72 --> 00:19:15.56] that like in Africa when I was growing
[00:19:13.96 --> 00:19:16.72] up you expect the teacher must have all
[00:19:15.56 --> 00:19:18.72] the
[00:19:16.72 --> 00:19:20.52] answers and you come to Finland the
[00:19:18.72 --> 00:19:22.04] teacher tells you I don't even know then
[00:19:20.52 --> 00:19:25.16] you'll be wondering why is he here if he
[00:19:22.04 --> 00:19:27.36] doesn't even know this differences is
[00:19:25.16 --> 00:19:30.20] what you sometimes they tell me that oh
[00:19:27.36 --> 00:19:31.80] the teachers don't tell told them that
[00:19:30.20 --> 00:19:33.28] no response I said he doesn't know he
[00:19:31.80 --> 00:19:34.80] said but he's a teacher it doesn't mean
[00:19:33.28 --> 00:19:36.40] he should have all the answers so
[00:19:34.80 --> 00:19:39.36] different cultures with different ways
[00:19:36.40 --> 00:19:41.16] of how teachers are viewed and how
[00:19:39.36 --> 00:19:42.84] students are allowed to ask questions
[00:19:41.16 --> 00:19:44.24] and not to ask questions so these are
[00:19:42.84 --> 00:19:47.32] the things I try
[00:19:44.24 --> 00:19:50.16] to encourage those foreign students who
[00:19:47.32 --> 00:19:52.08] approach me that hey just take it easy
[00:19:50.16 --> 00:19:54.20] the world is not a place we kill
[00:19:52.08 --> 00:19:57.44] ourselves we are here to study and to
[00:19:54.20 --> 00:19:59.52] encourage one another okay yeah I'd like
[00:19:57.44 --> 00:20:02.56] I'd like to add to add something about
[00:19:59.52 --> 00:20:04.64] the um so for example you've been for
[00:20:02.56 --> 00:20:07.16] such a long time in Finland already yeah
[00:20:04.64 --> 00:20:09.36] that you you you could be considered
[00:20:07.16 --> 00:20:12.20] like a double agent here like like a
[00:20:09.36 --> 00:20:13.68] Finn but then also from Ghana as well so
[00:20:12.20 --> 00:20:16.76] so what I want to say is
[00:20:13.68 --> 00:20:19.60] that having so many nationalities in the
[00:20:16.76 --> 00:20:21.72] classroom and having a teacher a mentor
[00:20:19.60 --> 00:20:24.52] who is aware of both sides of the
[00:20:21.72 --> 00:20:26.96] Finnish side and the non-Finnish side
[00:20:24.52 --> 00:20:30.24] that's also really nice approach because
[00:20:26.96 --> 00:20:33.08] you are you have been able to to
[00:20:30.24 --> 00:20:34.36] communicate properly with with both
[00:20:33.08 --> 00:20:36.96] finnished students and non-finished
[00:20:34.36 --> 00:20:38.32] students like myself so this I don't
[00:20:36.96 --> 00:20:40.00] know I think this is a really nice thing
[00:20:38.32 --> 00:20:41.80] as well to this is like a plus in the
[00:20:40.00 --> 00:20:43.76] program to me so yeah something to
[00:20:41.80 --> 00:20:45.32] consider yeah I think that's really a
[00:20:43.76 --> 00:20:48.24] good point because thank you very much
[00:20:45.32 --> 00:20:51.52] for that but I'm not James
[00:20:48.24 --> 00:20:55.00] Bond I'm not the double
[00:20:51.52 --> 00:20:58.08] agent but somehow you are helping the
[00:20:55.00 --> 00:20:59.68] students uh becoming more Adept and yeah
[00:20:58.08 --> 00:21:01.80] of course like uh since you're also an
[00:20:59.68 --> 00:21:03.64] international student yourself but uh
[00:21:01.80 --> 00:21:06.08] were there very like big cultural
[00:21:03.64 --> 00:21:08.04] differences that you had to uh adapt
[00:21:06.08 --> 00:21:09.80] when studying in Finland in compared to
[00:21:08.04 --> 00:21:13.36] when you're study in
[00:21:09.80 --> 00:21:15.20] Mexico um well I don't remember all of
[00:21:13.36 --> 00:21:17.88] them but something related to to
[00:21:15.20 --> 00:21:21.00] studying is also similar to what you
[00:21:17.88 --> 00:21:23.76] said uh in Mexico the for example the
[00:21:21.00 --> 00:21:26.20] you would expect the teacher to sort of
[00:21:23.76 --> 00:21:28.00] provide you with with the the tools and
[00:21:26.20 --> 00:21:30.92] what what you need in order to to
[00:21:28.00 --> 00:21:34.64] complete the for successfully but then
[00:21:30.92 --> 00:21:36.44] here it's more like and it's it's not
[00:21:34.64 --> 00:21:39.20] like better or worse it's just different
[00:21:36.44 --> 00:21:41.44] right yeah so but then one coming from
[00:21:39.20 --> 00:21:44.04] from elsewhere is expecting something to
[00:21:41.44 --> 00:21:46.88] happen but then it just doesn't happen
[00:21:44.04 --> 00:21:49.36] so then you end up like like sort of
[00:21:46.88 --> 00:21:51.20] beating yourself up like ah but did I do
[00:21:49.36 --> 00:21:53.56] something wrong is teacher mad at me or
[00:21:51.20 --> 00:21:56.08] what did I do so so here is more like
[00:21:53.56 --> 00:21:58.88] like a like a Hands-On approach like
[00:21:56.08 --> 00:22:00.40] independent working independent so given
[00:21:58.88 --> 00:22:01.12] with the Articles with the lectures with
[00:22:00.40 --> 00:22:03.44] the
[00:22:01.12 --> 00:22:05.20] tools and then you go through them on
[00:22:03.44 --> 00:22:08.40] yourself and the next lecture you can
[00:22:05.20 --> 00:22:12.12] ask questions or or we can we can
[00:22:08.40 --> 00:22:13.96] discuss more so as I said it's it's not
[00:22:12.12 --> 00:22:15.92] better or worse it's just different and
[00:22:13.96 --> 00:22:17.56] this is like like a like a mindset you
[00:22:15.92 --> 00:22:19.52] need you need to switch in your head
[00:22:17.56 --> 00:22:21.48] when you're coming to to a different
[00:22:19.52 --> 00:22:23.76] culture in terms of studies of course I
[00:22:21.48 --> 00:22:26.20] think uh that's I think that also
[00:22:23.76 --> 00:22:27.88] already prepares uh like the students
[00:22:26.20 --> 00:22:29.08] that come from International so they
[00:22:27.88 --> 00:22:30.92] adapt into
[00:22:29.08 --> 00:22:33.68] International working environments as
[00:22:30.92 --> 00:22:35.52] well like of course now that they had to
[00:22:33.68 --> 00:22:37.40] uh work together with students from
[00:22:35.52 --> 00:22:40.24] different countries and also experience
[00:22:37.40 --> 00:22:43.44] finland's education I guess that is also
[00:22:40.24 --> 00:22:45.40] uh somehow prepares them to better
[00:22:43.44 --> 00:22:48.00] integrate into International working
[00:22:45.40 --> 00:22:49.76] environment or even in Finland as well
[00:22:48.00 --> 00:22:52.80] yeah I
[00:22:49.76 --> 00:22:55.12] agree yeah yeah that's that's true and
[00:22:52.80 --> 00:22:57.12] uh regarding like what you said about uh
[00:22:55.12 --> 00:22:59.00] the companies I guess that is also the
[00:22:57.12 --> 00:23:01.44] companies have to better
[00:22:59.00 --> 00:23:03.08] provide more opportunities for the
[00:23:01.44 --> 00:23:05.72] international students regarding the
[00:23:03.08 --> 00:23:07.40] thesis opportunities or even practical
[00:23:05.72 --> 00:23:09.80] trainings so that could help them
[00:23:07.40 --> 00:23:11.36] further into for their studies and
[00:23:09.80 --> 00:23:13.20] thesis and we're working on that I think
[00:23:11.36 --> 00:23:15.40] it's already start to go so I think it
[00:23:13.20 --> 00:23:17.76] will go much more better in the future
[00:23:15.40 --> 00:23:21.44] as well yeah because I think um since we
[00:23:17.76 --> 00:23:23.96] doing the projects with the companies
[00:23:21.44 --> 00:23:27.96] because most of the projects we have uh
[00:23:23.96 --> 00:23:30.44] with companies so I would say that
[00:23:27.96 --> 00:23:32.64] through that if the master students are
[00:23:30.44 --> 00:23:34.32] integrated in the research and
[00:23:32.64 --> 00:23:36.76] development project in the school that
[00:23:34.32 --> 00:23:39.08] becomes another Doorway to engage them
[00:23:36.76 --> 00:23:41.48] with the company so we just started to
[00:23:39.08 --> 00:23:43.08] think about that so I think as we grow
[00:23:41.48 --> 00:23:45.44] in that path I think the situation will
[00:23:43.08 --> 00:23:46.84] get better in better yes I think that's
[00:23:45.44 --> 00:23:49.44] that's really great I think it's already
[00:23:46.84 --> 00:23:53.80] started to go uh way so I guess it will
[00:23:49.44 --> 00:23:55.92] just go up and improve yeah okay so
[00:23:53.80 --> 00:23:58.04] since we've discussed like generally
[00:23:55.92 --> 00:24:00.60] like about personal experience both from
[00:23:58.04 --> 00:24:02.72] Adebayo and Pablo like what what would
[00:24:00.60 --> 00:24:04.40] you say was the best thing you have been
[00:24:02.72 --> 00:24:06.76] studying so far what is the best thing
[00:24:04.40 --> 00:24:06.76] you would
[00:24:06.92 --> 00:24:13.00] say are
[00:24:09.52 --> 00:24:15.88] bio top three at least top three
[00:24:13.00 --> 00:24:18.08] um I think the the flexibility that the
[00:24:15.88 --> 00:24:19.36] program offers flexibility because
[00:24:18.08 --> 00:24:22.24] everything has been taken into
[00:24:19.36 --> 00:24:24.04] consideration since it's built the
[00:24:22.24 --> 00:24:26.08] program is built and and meant for
[00:24:24.04 --> 00:24:29.84] people who are working it's flexible
[00:24:26.08 --> 00:24:33.04] enough to and you to to to balance
[00:24:29.84 --> 00:24:35.60] everything in your life so that's
[00:24:33.04 --> 00:24:37.64] something I've really liked and yeah
[00:24:35.60 --> 00:24:40.76] something I'm I'm grateful for it's it's
[00:24:37.64 --> 00:24:43.68] been it's been a nice Journey so far so
[00:24:40.76 --> 00:24:45.80] okay all good yes that's great to know
[00:24:43.68 --> 00:24:48.24] uh what about IO what do you think like
[00:24:45.80 --> 00:24:50.96] is the best so
[00:24:48.24 --> 00:24:53.32] far working with International students
[00:24:50.96 --> 00:24:56.04] coming from all over the world I think
[00:24:53.32 --> 00:24:58.92] that is one I think uh what I enjoy
[00:24:56.04 --> 00:25:02.96] mostly is to see the
[00:24:58.92 --> 00:25:06.00] students working in their companies M
[00:25:02.96 --> 00:25:07.88] bringing up these challenges or problems
[00:25:06.00 --> 00:25:10.80] in their company and then having the
[00:25:07.88 --> 00:25:14.40] possibility to discuss with my knowledge
[00:25:10.80 --> 00:25:16.40] and experience and then we come to some
[00:25:14.40 --> 00:25:18.32] kind of solution it's always a good
[00:25:16.40 --> 00:25:21.24] feeling because then they bring the
[00:25:18.32 --> 00:25:24.20] challenges from the industries then we
[00:25:21.24 --> 00:25:25.84] bring the knowledge we interact we
[00:25:24.20 --> 00:25:27.56] discuss and we come up with a solution I
[00:25:25.84 --> 00:25:29.72] think that's a good feeling that the
[00:25:27.56 --> 00:25:31.72] program is achieving in its goal it
[00:25:29.72 --> 00:25:33.64] really sounds to me like it is like the
[00:25:31.72 --> 00:25:35.24] master programs environment is kind of
[00:25:33.64 --> 00:25:38.40] really designed for the people who are
[00:25:35.24 --> 00:25:40.52] working with flexibility and also uh
[00:25:38.40 --> 00:25:43.08] working together with uh your own
[00:25:40.52 --> 00:25:44.56] lecturer your own uh teachers as well
[00:25:43.08 --> 00:25:46.88] which which makes it sound really like
[00:25:44.56 --> 00:25:49.36] you know more personal personto person
[00:25:46.88 --> 00:25:52.52] building Connections in the same way
[00:25:49.36 --> 00:25:54.40] yeah so yeah so as for the last point do
[00:25:52.52 --> 00:25:57.04] you have any advices that you want to
[00:25:54.40 --> 00:25:59.36] give to upcoming potential students who
[00:25:57.04 --> 00:26:01.88] want to study Masters. Maybe we can
[00:25:59.36 --> 00:26:04.76] start with Pablo okay so I just like to
[00:26:01.88 --> 00:26:06.16] say "Don't Be Afraid" um because sometimes
[00:26:04.76 --> 00:26:08.92] when you think like Masters maybe it's
[00:26:06.16 --> 00:26:12.84] like a huge Endeavor for you to to
[00:26:08.92 --> 00:26:14.64] accomplish but it's it's not a as you
[00:26:12.84 --> 00:26:16.96] always say it's just studying it's not
[00:26:14.64 --> 00:26:18.84] like a life or death matter right so
[00:26:16.96 --> 00:26:21.52] don't be afraid there's ways to to
[00:26:18.84 --> 00:26:23.76] handle it is flexible and and uh yeah
[00:26:21.52 --> 00:26:25.80] just just go for it okay that's what I
[00:26:23.76 --> 00:26:28.00] would advise anyone who's planning in
[00:26:25.80 --> 00:26:31.56] studying in VAMK yes I will take that in
[00:26:28.00 --> 00:26:33.52] mind also not to be afraid yes and what
[00:26:31.56 --> 00:26:36.32] about Adebayo what advice would you want
[00:26:33.52 --> 00:26:40.56] to give to the forign students I'll tell
[00:26:36.32 --> 00:26:44.72] them they should open up break their
[00:26:40.56 --> 00:26:48.24] eggshells integrate create networks and
[00:26:44.72 --> 00:26:50.04] then enjoy the network and be patient M
[00:26:48.24 --> 00:26:53.64] and to my finished students too I will
[00:26:50.04 --> 00:26:56.16] tell them that they have a pool of
[00:26:53.64 --> 00:26:57.60] potential colleagues in front of them
[00:26:56.16 --> 00:27:00.76] they should also get to know the foreign
[00:26:57.60 --> 00:27:05.28] students MH integrate invite
[00:27:00.76 --> 00:27:07.96] them and see how it goes mhm yes I will
[00:27:05.28 --> 00:27:10.12] take both of your advices and remember
[00:27:07.96 --> 00:27:11.44] that as well yeah and as a but even
[00:27:10.12 --> 00:27:14.48] though I'm studying Bachelors at the
[00:27:11.44 --> 00:27:16.48] moment I think really like uh being open
[00:27:14.48 --> 00:27:18.84] and be patient like what you said as an
[00:27:16.48 --> 00:27:20.72] international student and to try to
[00:27:18.84 --> 00:27:23.20] integrate as much as possible has been
[00:27:20.72 --> 00:27:25.56] the key things as me as a student but of
[00:27:23.20 --> 00:27:27.76] course I'm not like full-time working at
[00:27:25.56 --> 00:27:29.88] the moment so but yeah still I think
[00:27:27.76 --> 00:27:32.48] this is still one really good point that
[00:27:29.88 --> 00:27:36.84] makes me resilient when studying in
[00:27:32.48 --> 00:27:38.88] Finland as well good yes okay so but
[00:27:36.84 --> 00:27:40.68] anyways thank you so much for this great
[00:27:38.88 --> 00:27:42.68] discussion today thank you for your time
[00:27:40.68 --> 00:27:45.20] thank you so much and yes we'll hope
[00:27:42.68 --> 00:27:46.76] we'll see in the future again definitely
[00:27:45.20 --> 00:27:50.72] thank you yeah and have a nice day and
[00:27:46.76 --> 00:27:56.36] enjoy your sun yes definitely enjoy the
[00:27:50.72 --> 00:27:56.36] sunlight okay so bye-bye thank you thank
[00:27:57.12 --> 00:28:02.60] bye
[00:27:59.64 --> 00:28:05.36] so thank you everyone we have come to
[00:28:02.60 --> 00:28:08.04] the very last episode of f academic
[00:28:05.36 --> 00:28:10.36] adventures and we hope this series have
[00:28:08.04 --> 00:28:12.40] provided you a great insight and
[00:28:10.36 --> 00:28:15.12] knowledge that will help you to prepare
[00:28:12.40 --> 00:28:17.08] for your journey in Finland or for you
[00:28:15.12 --> 00:28:18.68] to driving in Finland as an
[00:28:17.08 --> 00:28:22.84] international
[00:28:18.68 --> 00:28:22.84] student see you soon
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